Waggle Weight Wisdom™ Answers

A poster on the Worrisome Reasonless Xenogolf forum website, with the member name of golfer55082, recently posted an inquiry regarding golf club swingweight. He first very briefly expressed his learned belief that “swing weight is the only deciding factor of ‘how heavy a club feels like,'” but then expressed confusion when a club (swung and evaluated by his 13-year-old son) having a heavier swingweight value actually felt no heavier when swung than a different club having a lighter swingweight value.

The few responses received were, as usual, for the most part incorrect and uneducated tripe, with at least one such response given by a supposed “expert” that had posted more than 22,000 times already on the forum. By itself, this chronic occurrence comprises nothing new at all and is pretty standard fare. I foretell considerably more damage being done to the game of golf by the forum referred to and similar forums of today due to the way they are commonly structured and/or run.

For example, the independent clubfitting trade (a potentially strong, positive, and driving force to lead the game of golf into the future) has been all but annihilated in more recent times. And the incessant ignorant comments by so many totally unqualified people (and so publicly) that seem to regularly participate on such forums have had a bigger hand in this annihilation than other potential factors like being forced out by any larger entities.

It remains to be seen whether the damage already done (damage that is still taking place rampantly) might ever be

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I think I previously began something similar as I try to navigate business elements, like displaying my original work to help golfers while at the same time also protecting the intellectual property (including the ability to control who can further use it and how). This is a very natural and reasonable business goal, but the creator(s) of the Worrisome Reasonless Xenogolf forum website does not share this sentiment based upon that site’s published posting terms (noting that it is far from the only site that publishes and tries to impose such terms).

Greed that can be conspicuously observed in such published terms has already hurt such sites (and the game of golf) and will eventually sink them if it continues unchanged. The terms contribute to why posters on such sites are commonly utterly unqualified, why posts are commonly so poor in nature and erroneous regarding countless topics, and why such sites as a whole have developed extremely poor reputations. Despite supposedly wanting to help golfers and the game, these sites broadly achieve the opposite effect instead with the way they are currently structured and/or run.

A glut of technically incorrect and uncorrected content (especially instructional content regarding golf swing and clubfitting aspects of the game) has already been amassed by such forum sites. And the error-filled content can now be easily searched, referenced, and believed by Messrs. Gullible Golfer as well as the rest of the world, presumably for generations to come. If true, this will contribute even more to the ongoing delinquency and diminishing popularity of and participation in the game.

So for various reasons (some not even discussed here) I cannot really

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A poster with the member name of Tim Schoch, on one of the multiple online golf forums that I will not specifically name in this particular entry, recently posted an inquiry that is somewhat of a poll meant to elicit responses from golfers. He asks whether the clubfitting process and/or results were a waste or wonderful for those who have gone through the process.

More than 100 responses were posted as of the time I chose to display this particular entry, many comprising the same ignorant nonsense (and often from the same ignorant posters) that frequently populate such forums. Countless pretentious “experts” seem more intent on playing one-upmanship with what they “think” they know (seemingly a more common occurrence within the golf industry than in many other activities) rather than actually trying to answer the inquiry. With very few exceptions these so-called experts are generally all wrong and clueless to varying degrees regarding their “facts.” Some of them participate in the game of golf when in a manner of speaking they would never even be let on the field in other common activities (and possess the knowledge and experience that accompanies such a scenario).

While I have addressed this previously in numerous, various ways, golfers and the golf industry as a whole still just do not seem to be able to see right in front of their noses regarding the matter inquired about. And certain pivotal facts not previously known are not being spread as much and as quickly as they might be. So in basically trying to just continue to help one golfer at a time, and with the hope that he/she will be sufficiently helped by the information to consider helping to further spread the information more widely, Tim’s inquiry can be responded to and explained as follows. This is information the golf industry needs to heed very badly and widely if it is ever going to recover and grow with honor from its current state of disgrace.

After what should be obvious as the number one priority of developing one’s swing as well as possible, clubfitting is

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With the elements described in Parts One and Two, next consider the following. You should be able to meld your hands together in an overlapping or interlocking manner (mimicking the presence of a golf club) and make your golf swing in a very effective manner with no golf club or any other substitute device in or about your hands. In fact, and even though most people involved in golf still do not understand the concept more than one-hundred years after it was initially conceived, the whole purpose for the existence of developing an overlapping or interlocking gripping structure with the hands to begin with is

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The process that began to be described in Part One that is related to direct (not indirect, which can be very deceiving and inaccurate) swing performance might seem to at least partially negate any advantage(s) of lighter weight shafts. This could be true depending upon any number of various elements that come into play, and in the end it is simply not reasonable to expect that one will be able to swing any better and stronger than one is capable of even when using a lighter weight shaft. But shafts that are lighter in weight could nevertheless still be advantageous (provided that a club[s] overall is fit to the actual swing capability of a golfer in accordance with valid clubfitting principles).

It is both funny and sad at the same time to see so many players, especially (but hardly limited to) less experienced players, crudely working to find different component grip sizes or making some other adjustment(s) when gripping their driver/woods and irons to try and get them to all end up with the same outside diameter of grip size. It is especially telling about the clubfitting knowledge and experience (or lack thereof) of anybody who does this when combining

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An individual with the member name of bjp1 on the Worrisome Reasonless Xenogolf website forum posts that he has been fitted over the years by many “credible” establishments as he currently perceives them. Yet after a time playing with each of the suggested golf club specifications by the various fittings, he begins to struggle with tempo and swing speed issues. He broadly inquires whether or not the shaft weight could be responsible for what he is experiencing, inquiring about both swinging and ball travel result attributes (two distinctly different considerations) within his posting. The swing performance attribute can at least be addressed for bjp1 as follows.

First, as it stands at this particular point in golf history, the clubfitting industry as a general whole is anything but the advanced and proficient technological trade that many believe it is. The commercialized clubfitting trade is actually still so much in its infancy regarding being properly educated about certain even extremely basic golf swing and clubfitting theories and practices that the trade is figuratively still in diapers. An element like glitzy launch monitor use has (temporarily) helped to cover up this true fact, even for more experienced individuals and/or organizations that should (but seemingly do not) know better. But eventually the current ineptness of the clubfitting trade will become much more publicly known and understood by everybody.

In light of this, your commenting that “Cool Club, Club Champion, local top fitters” that you have apparently all been to comprise “credible” clubfitting establishments is anything but the truth and a very uniformed statement. Universally, the trade claims to be able to fit golf clubs to the swings of golfers. But it is wholly incompetent at doing so, basically just fitting clubs according to ball travel result numbers spit out by a launch monitor and claiming that the process is comparable or equivalent to fitting clubs to the actual swings of golfers. This is an extremely inaccurate claim by a very ignorant industry. And yet the trade somehow still cannot understand how it continues to have a longstanding very poor reputation, regularly sending golfers away from the process swinging and playing worse than when they began, even if ball travel results might (commonly temporarily) be a little better.

Based on the above, establishments in the game of golf as a cumulative whole that practice and/or teach clubfitting, including but hardly limited to those you listed, in essence actually practice and/or teach the “Swing Degenerative Method of Clubfitting.” This method categorically sacrifices the achieved swing development of golfers at the expense of blindly pursuing some golf ball travel result(s). And because this description is so very accurate in nature (and will remain so unless and until the clubfitting industry is able to straighten out its current debacle), it might enlighten better regarding how and why the clubfitting industry has markedly contributed to declines in the popularity and reputation of the game.

Furthermore,

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A poster, as a member of the repeatedly embarrassing Worrisome Reasonless Xenogolf online golf forum and with the member name of juststeve, recently made an inquiry on the forum with a distinct accentuating regarding how RELIABLE golf club fitting is for golfers. He acknowledged that he has heard stories about how clubfitters and clubfitting results can be so inconsistent for poor golfers, but that his information has been based on a small sample. So he was asking for the experiences or opinions of others. Out of the more than sixty replies he received at the time that this particular entry was displayed, I would characterize most in this instance not as being absurd (which is commonly the case on the noted and other similar forums), but more along the lines of being feeble, pitiable excuses for what is right in front of the noses of everyone yet continues to be vehemently denied by what amounts to a shamefully proud trade (and game) overall. But that is hardly the case here, so I can freely respond to the inquiry of juststeve with some actual correct information as follows.

Let us get right to the truth of the matter. Putting aside subjective and/or artistic aspects of clubfitting and addressing just aspects that can reduced to scientific elements, the clubfitting trade as a whole is

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This is another slightly different type of entry as I continue to explore and experiment with various business issues and potential solutions. In forming the entry, I firmly kept in mind primary goals of my work to help better educate golfers, clubfitters, and others with corrected and/or advanced new information regarding golf swing and clubfitting theories and practices. Part of this process includes addressing other related topics when relevant, and a very integral and crucial element is also trying to find ways to initially introduce as many people as possible to my work as it is displayed for their consideration.

Recently, a current member of the Worrisome Reasonless Xenogolf website forum (whose name is indicated below) posted a rather extensive reply on the site (seemingly almost as long as many of my own entries). In response to the inquiry of another member, the post tried to compare the golf club specifications of swingweight (or swing weight) and MOI club matching techniques. (As I have repeatedly stated previously, technically MOI stands for Moment of Inertia, but in its current configuration [the MOI value about the butt end of a golf club] it is much better termed Moment of Insanity as a golf club matching concept). And unfortunately, the member posted some of the most uneducated and inaccurate information I have ever witnessed regarding these two particular golf club specifications. But that initial sadness quickly turned to folly when he simultaneously also self-proclaimed how much of an expert he is regarding the specifications. He went on to add that there were many experts on the forum site that had clubfitting knowledge equivalent to his own, and he tried to dissuade people from posting anymore if they did not possess his level of clubfitting expertise (unequivocally about as funny and priceless as it can possibly get).

Such posts and actual statements by forum members perhaps prove my point(s) regarding how pathetic and damaging such online forums have been to the game of golf as a whole (and the clubfitting industry more specifically) far better than any comments I have come up with to date in trying to expose the unexaggerated truth of the current situation. Not only is the game becoming more and more unattractive to more and more people, but in certain ways it is becoming downright repulsive thanks in part to the types of posts and/or posters that have become so rampant on the types of public golf forums that are typically presented online today. I will not repeat any specific quotes from the forum member post addressed here, as it is loaded with nonsense from start to finish and would simply further spread tremendous shame that is already plaguing the golf industry and clubfitting trade. But based on my response below you should be able to deduce much of what he posted.

A unique part of this entry is that

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Unlike most other entries, this particular one is essentially a follow-up communication regarding wcgolf and his original inquiry that I initially addressed in my previous entry. He responded to me and offered some welcome feedback, both of which I am grateful for, including taking issue with my very harsh criticisms of the golf industry and clubfitting trade rather than potentially treating them with more kindness and leniency, and he also added another question or two. My follow-up entry to wcgolf is as follows.

Regarding my “bashing” of the industry as you termed it, suffice it to say that I

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On the Worrisome Reasonless Xenogolf Internet golf forum, a poster with the member name of wcgolf has made an inquiry regarding clubfitting indicating that he commonly second guesses everything. In this case it was a recent clubfitting he had gone through and where he is skeptical about certain results obtained, asking a question or two and soliciting the opinions of others before he buys a set of irons. I will respond here to wcgolf as follows.

Your second guessing and skepticism are very well founded. They should be strongly directed at the commercial clubfitting trade, which as a whole is currently

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